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cdti direct induction set up
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cobra sport 200 cell sports cat
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PostSubject: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeThu Aug 19, 2010 5:59 pm

im gonna either buy a cdti direct induction set up or a sports cat replacement pipe for my gsi but which would you go for first, i have a pre cat pipe if that makes any difference.
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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeThu Aug 19, 2010 7:18 pm

i wouldnt bother with the prossies down notts lol

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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeThu Aug 19, 2010 8:02 pm

sports cats are crap i had a skyline in today for a mot had 1 put on 8 months ago it failed on the 2nd idle test and failed missrable on the emissions due to the cat breaking down and that was a miltec cat. he was not a happy bunny

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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeThu Aug 19, 2010 11:39 pm

direct induction kit, start at the begining
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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeFri Aug 20, 2010 11:21 am

for more power, go for the 200 cell sport cat... for engine compartment.. looks go for the cdti box job..

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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeFri Aug 20, 2010 4:47 pm

i ordered the cdti airbox form jbi on ebay for 174 quid, got the veccy c pipe too and just ordered a panel filter so that should be the complete set up i reckon.
Got 10 % discount too so cant be bad!!
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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeFri Aug 20, 2010 5:35 pm

sounds alright buddy

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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeFri Aug 20, 2010 8:02 pm

cheers, it seems induction is always the most popular modification but what gain can i expect, should i be expecting a discernable difference or is that being optomistic....has anyone ever come across roller info showing gains from induction alone?
What are your experiences from induction mods on your zafiras?
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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeFri Aug 20, 2010 8:22 pm

about 4/8 bhp.

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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeFri Aug 20, 2010 9:22 pm

aaaah, well thats better than a kick in the nads isn't it, lol.
So with my pre cat then as well i should be nudging the 200 bhp mark.
Anyway why are zafira gsi's 187 bhp but astra gsi's 197, whats the difference ??
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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeFri Aug 20, 2010 9:24 pm

power to weight astra weight about 1400kg

zafira weight about 2100kg

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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeFri Aug 20, 2010 9:41 pm

sorry, i dont understand, the zaf gsi is 1485 kilos isnt it ?, i know the astra is probably 200 kilos lighter but why didnt they give the zaf gsi the 197 bhp engine thats in the astra?

p.s who voted for the prosser, lol
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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeFri Aug 20, 2010 9:48 pm

sorry my bad typo.

they are the same engine Z20LET

its all power to weight ratio

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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeSat Aug 21, 2010 4:29 pm

well i fitted the new turbo de cat downpipe this morning, went fairly well, a couple of rusty nuts snapped removing the o.e pre cat but no matter, all fitted well and drives good so job done.
Scorpion pipe was not the best quality tbh, i had to grind away some burrs and one were the sensor screws in was particularly rough, so much so it wouldnt even screw in until id tidied it up.
Last time i had scorpion quality was much better.It maybe just sounds very slightly louder but its easy to see why the o.e downpipe is so restrictive, its a right peice of work !!
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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeTue Aug 24, 2010 4:31 pm

got my cdti induction set up today but just have one question to anyone thats fitted one or has one.......should i take out the 2 pipes inside it like you do when you are de-restricting the o.e airbox?
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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeTue Aug 24, 2010 9:26 pm

tomZ20LET wrote:
sorry my bad typo.

they are the same engine Z20LET

its all power to weight ratio

that wouldn't explain why the astra has more power though? would just explain why it's quicker.... Smile

The astra SRI also has 189bhp yet 0-60 times are quoted as the same as the GSI, also astra weight is quoted as 1272kg
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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeWed Aug 25, 2010 12:50 pm

yeah id take em out made a slight difference to my 100hp dti, should de a bit more noticeable on a gsi
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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeWed Aug 25, 2010 6:22 pm

zafira gsi engine code Z20LET

astra gsi engine code Z20LET

there the same engine same internals same turbo same intercooler.

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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeWed Aug 25, 2010 6:48 pm

i had this argument with my mate who had the astra gsi his had more bhp then my zaf

total vx used to have a table of the vx's with 0-60 times and bhp's which he pointed out to me

same engine but different bhp for some reason

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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeWed Aug 25, 2010 10:05 pm

astra gsi 197 bhp 0-60 6 seconds ( standard )


astra sri turbo bhp 187 0-60 6 seconds (standard Z20LET ENGINE)


zafira gsi 192 bhp 0-60 7.6 seconds ( standard )

when they do a dyno they SHOULD set it up by weight to get an acurate reading also aerodynamics come in to play as the zafira is clearly massive compered to the astra. Also if you put a standard cav gsi ( c20let ) up against a standard corsa ( c20let ) the corsa would win hands down due to it have a c20let in a biscuit tin it works the same with an astra and a zafira hence the expression power to weight ratio. The sri has the same z20let engine but less tuned than the gsi engines and the were a limited edition as there were only 500 made. Very Happy Twisted Evil Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: which one?   which one? Icon_minitimeSat Aug 28, 2010 3:40 pm

fitted my cdti induction set up today and im very pleased wth it, lovely fit and finish on everything.I never expected a diesel airbox just to fit straight in so well and i didnt even have to extend the wire for the amf sensor. !!
I brought a vectra c pipe and connector to hopefully pipe cold air from the front of the car but it wouldnt fit with the new kit so i used the old feed pipes to supply air which fitted very well but as the diameter is small i didnt connect it to the air box, instead i just pointed the end closely too the airbox in pipe to provide some cooler air but still allow more to be drawn in from the wing area.
Looks nice under the bonnet and loses the ugly crossover pipe but more importantly i feel is the drive is enhanced without any chavvy induction roar, this was important for me i deffinitely didnt want the loud noises you usually get when you modify induction systems.
I have to admit im surprised as the car genuinely feels more lively, i'm not one to go making rash claims, but judging solely by the old butt dyno i'd wager this set up has released some power, infact more so then the pre cat replacment pipe imo.
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Don't know, you'll have to ask the wife...
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