cruise control

andromeda411 wrote:

i did a bit of research today and took off the dashboard of my zaf. behind there i found a spare brown plug( has space for 4 wires but only 2 being used) with a grey wire and a black wire going to it. is this for the clutch switch(which is not present) and if it is do i still need to un the wire to under the UEC or is it just install the switch plug in the lead and then of course the stalk and the tech 2.

regards

andromeda411

This one you found is for the CC/high-low beam switch. The clutch switch (grey/red) will have the plug in already if it's fitted in the car OEM. Look up at the clutch pedal, if you see a flat plate with a square hole... Bummer no clutch switch. If you see a grey/red plunge switch

maddog wrote:

is it plug and play for cruise control ( new indicator stalk)on the 1.8 sri 57 plate???

No not on any, they all need Tec2.

I'm going to invite Adam (stamped) along to the forum to offer his services in this matter. He is the man for all your CC, Tec2, SMD etc needs. Or give Lee on this forum a shout for help.

planetse wrote:

andromeda411 wrote:

i did a bit of research today and took off the dashboard of my zaf. behind there i found a spare brown plug( has space for 4 wires but only 2 being used) with a grey wire and a black wire going to it. is this for the clutch switch(which is not present) and if it is do i still need to un the wire to under the UEC or is it just install the switch plug in the lead and then of course the stalk and the tech 2.

regards

andromeda411

This one you found is for the CC/high-low beam switch. The clutch switch (grey/red) will have the plug in already if it's fitted in the car OEM. Look up at the clutch pedal, if you see a flat plate with a square hole... Bummer no clutch switch. If you see a grey/red plunge switch

ok, there is definately no swtch installed but is the spare plug i found behind the instrument cluster the one for plugging into the switch when i fit it.
bought one on ebay yesterday so should have it tomorrow hopefully
also got the stalk coming aswell

what is CC/high-low beam switch?

regards

andromeda411

Ok silly question but if I was to install CC would I need a clutch switch being its a manual or do I have that and just need the stalk and Tech2 done.

I am I right to think auto's would need the clutch switch.

Yes it is chap.

and

The thing you got of eBay. Take care taking off the old one, there is a nac to doing it.

Okay, the brown plug goes to the clutch switch, but just because that bit is present doesn't mean their is a full wiring loom unfortunately

Test the grey wire out of the plug for resistance against ground (any unpainted metal part of the car). If you get infinite resistance, some wiring is missing. If not, you're in luck.

Plug the wire into the clutch switch, put the switch in the hole at the top of the clutch pedal and plug in the stalk, then it all needs programming in.

ok,

so tomorrow i am going to install it all, also the wire from pin 27 in the uec to the grey wire of the clutch switch.

hopefully that will be all i need, then programming.

cheers

andro

yep

could i program it with an op-com unit?

andro

I would stay away from dodgy opcoms from ebay etc.

They can cause problems in my experience. Mine went berserk when plugged into my car.

I have the genuine vaux-com unit, and that can definitely do it. Give it a go with the opcom if you're feeling lucky/brave lol

ok fitted clutch switch today also ran wire from pin 27 and tapped into grey wire at cltch switch, but bummer postie did not deliver new stalk today as i was hoping so will have to wait till monday hopefully.

found someone in aberdeen area who will do programming for me.he was on the astra owners network and is called Ravin Beef.

regards and thanks for all the help

andromeda411

Ravin Beef will sort it for you no probs. Ask him about your Trip Comp etc too.

planetse wrote:

Yes it is chap.

and

The thing you got of eBay. Take care taking off the old one, there is a nac to doing it.

whats the best way to removing the old one?
any tips?

thanks

andromeda411

well, time for an update to my cruise control installation.

wire installed from pin 27 in the UEC to grey cable at clutch switch connector.
installed clutch switch and connected. did all this on saturday.
postie arrived yesterday with new indicator/cruise control stalk. Fitted that yesterday and then thought i would have a little play around with my op-com unit and within 20 mins had set up all the cruise control.
took car for a test run along dual carriageway and everything is working good.Even cruise control tell-tale light working on instrument panel.

all in all i reckon this cost me around £40 plus my time maybe around 2 hours.

so i think it was a success.

andromeda411 wrote:

well, time for an update to my cruise control installation.

wire installed from pin 27 in the UEC to grey cable at clutch switch connector.
installed clutch switch and connected. did all this on saturday.
postie arrived yesterday with new indicator/cruise control stalk. Fitted that yesterday and then thought i would have a little play around with my op-com unit and within 20 mins had set up all the cruise control.
took car for a test run along dual carriageway and everything is working good.Even cruise control tell-tale light working on instrument panel.

all in all i reckon this cost me around £40 plus my time maybe around 2 hours.

so i think it was a success.

Congrats glad its all worked out for you

Wow, been looking for this level of detail. I have an 08 Zafira 1.8 Sri. I got a copy of the Haynes book of household fables but it only contains stuff i dont need right now

At the week end i will try to do a contortionist impression and see if i have the clutch switch in place. If that doesnt work then i guess its off with the lower dash.

Not quite clear on this bit though
"pin 27 in the uec to the grey wire of the clutch switch"

Is there a map of the UEC available somewhere ?

For an 08 1.8SRi I am pretty sure you will have the clutch switch, I just got my 07 1.8 'Design' Cruise Control working, all was in place, just needed the stalk and the programming.

The lower dash panel is a pain to remove, you need to remove the gear stick surround first then the outer panel near the door to gain access to some hidden torx screws.

CFB wrote:

For an 08 1.8SRi I am pretty sure you will have the clutch switch, I just got my 07 1.8 'Design' Cruise Control working, all was in place, just needed the stalk and the programming.

The lower dash panel is a pain to remove, you need to remove the gear stick surround first then the outer panel near the door to gain access to some hidden torx screws.

Cheers for that, i will give it a look over the week end and report back.

Reporting back, jeez you weren't kidding about the lower dash panel, took everything to bits but couldnt manage to free the drivers side left panel to get to the screws. Anyway as it turns out i didnt need to after many contortions under the pedals i found this, which appearts to be the clutch switch


and this which is the brake switch, couldnt get to see the wiring though.


So i suspect its worth me getting a stalk and plugging it in.

Can anyone confirm if you can use one of these to switch it on ?
OP COM OPCOM Opel Diagnostic Tool Latest Firmware V1.33

Item number:330430185310
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OP-OPCOM-Opel-Diagnostic-Tool-Latest-Firmware-V1-33-/330430185310?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4cef2c7f5e

thanks all.
Alan

Update...Well i bought one of the above and tried it with 2 versions of firmware, 3 versions of the software and 2 different laptops and it didnt work. It connects and does some things but not others. i.e. cant access the engine area. Anything linked to HS-can doesnt work so i am assuming its a duff unit and have returned it for a replacement.

Got the replacement opcom and it works a treat so the other one was definately duff.
Modified engine varient cc config to present
CIM steering CC config to present
and CIM steering varient country code to UK
Cruise control now up an and running, no light on the dash but i can live with that.

One odd thing, i cleared all the fault codes but still get a spanner on the display when i switch on the ignition. It goes off when the engine starts. It wasnt there before i started fiddling and the car was just serviced so i suspect its down to me.
Wierd its there with no fault codes though.
Any ideas ????

if i remember there were 3 things i had to change with the opcom unit to get CC fully functional. i did mine a while ago. the telltale light should work.
try using opcom unit to function test the cruise control tell tale light if you can.

andromeda411 wrote:

if i remember there were 3 things i had to change with the opcom unit to get CC fully functional. i did mine a while ago. the telltale light should work.
try using opcom unit to function test the cruise control tell tale light if you can.

Thanks, I did the 3 things above and is i said it works ok but no light. I will take another look to see if there is anything specific to the cc light. TBH i am more bothered about the spanner being on when there are no reported faults.

andromeda411 wrote:

if i remember there were 3 things i had to change with the opcom unit to get CC fully functional. i did mine a while ago. the telltale light should work.
try using opcom unit to function test the cruise control tell tale light if you can.

I knew i saw that word "Telltale" somewhere. I tried testing the CC telltale and sure enough the light on the dial worked which was curious so i did a bit more digging.
I think it wasnt switched on in the IPC ECU or it didnt take first time, anyway switched that on again and all is well now, cc with the dash light, thanks for the pointers

AlanB wrote:

One odd thing, i cleared all the fault codes but still get a spanner on the display when i switch on the ignition. It goes off when the engine starts. It wasnt there before i started fiddling and the car was just serviced so i suspect its down to me.
Wierd its there with no fault codes though.
Any ideas ????

Actually aren't all the lights supposed to be on when you put the key in and then go off when the engine starts DOH !

Note to self pay attention more